The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground. —THOMAS JEFFERSON, 1788

War zone: Media in town where black teen was shot told to leave or face arrest

Looting, vandalism, riots in Ferguson via kmov

Looting, vandalism, riots in Ferguson via kmov

Tensions are high in Ferguson, Mo., as police are out in droves after widespread rioting and looting resulted in major damage to local businesses Sunday evening. On Twitter, reports of riot police and tanks getting ahead of further potential violence are adding to the unrest.

Michael Brown was an unarmed teenager who was shot and killed by an unnamed police officer over the weekend in suburban St. Louis. The details surrounding the circumstances of the initial confrontation remain unclear, as reported at the Washington Post; however it was reported that a police officer was physically pushed into his own squad car and “assaulted.”

The Saint Louis Post Dispatch reported that Brown “attacked” the officer. St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar said “one shot was fired by the officer’s gun inside the car during the struggle, hitting no one, and that the officer then got out of the car and fired multiple times.” An autopsy will be performed on Brown. A police investigation into the incident is underway.

After a vigil for Michael Brown, widespread rioting and looting devastated the area. News 4 KMOV reported that “[A]t least two officers suffered injuries and 32 people were arrested…” during the riots. The report noted that “windows of a News 4 live truck were smashed out by the angry crowd.”

Ferguson riots via Twitter

Ferguson riots via Twitter

Here is an excerpt from the Dispatch on the damage from Sunday evening:

While some people prayed, others spilled onto West Florissant Avenue, choking off traffic. Looting was reported at a QuikTrip at 9420 West Florissant Avenue about 9 p.m. and soon spread from there. Most of the businesses being targeted were mainly along West Florissant. Around 11 p.m., looters smashed into a Wal-Mart in the area near Interstate 270, as well as cell phone, clothing and dollar stores.

A large fire was burning at West Florissant and Northwinds Estates Drive. A civilian was reported beaten near West Florissant and Chambers. Jimmy Muhammad, 32, said he and his colleagues had just fended off a gang of masked young men with guns who tried to break into his uncle’s store, United Mart, in the 10300 block of West Florissant. The front door was shattered. “It’s bad,” said Muhammad, still gripping a pistol.

Sirens blasted from all the police vehicles speeding by to other crime scenes. “I don’t blame the police, but they can’t keep up.” Silas Chung, 53, didn’t get to his small store, Up N Up Fashion, in the 11600 block of West Florissant, soon enough to defend it. “I feel bad,” said Chung, cleaning up the damage. “This world is getting worse and worse.” At Ferguson Avenue and West Florissant Road, about 150 demonstrators also blocked traffic. They were taunting police officers, who were lined up in riot gear, carrying shields and batons.

On Monday night, the NAACP held a meeting and police were ready with tanks and tear gas.

There were several reports stating that the damage was not caused by locals. According to the News 4 report, “Ferguson Mayor James Knowles III and Chief [Tom] Jackson told News 4 they are confident the people who rioted last night are from Jennings and Dellwood, not Ferguson.”

On Monday night, presumably to stop further rioting from gaining a foothold on the town, the police showed up in a big way and inexplicably asked the local media to leave.

Rev. Al Sharpton will be meeting with the family. The FBI will be investigating “civil rights” complaints against the police.  

Tauheed Youth Development Life, the New Black Panther Party (NBPP), the Organization for Black Struggle (OBS), the Moorish Science Temple, the Coalition Against Police Crimes and Repression, the Nation of Islam – Mosque 28, and the Universal African Peoples Organization (UAPO) are calling for another rally in front of St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Robert P. McCulloch’s office on Tuesday.

Renee Nal is a co-founder of TavernKeepers.com, a news and political commentary site founded by former Glenn Beck interns. She is also the National Conservative Examiner and a contributor for the Brenner Brief.

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  • Mike Crowson

    OUR DEMANDS
    NEGROS QUIT KILLING NEGROS ‘
    NEGROS QUIT KILLING MEXICANS
    NEGROS QUIT KILLING ASIANS
    NEGROS QUIT KILLING WHITES

    • neopanther

      My demand. Quit hiding behind a picture of a cartoon character. Quit blaming people for the actions of racists. Quit using forums to say things you’d never say to anyone’s face. Quit committing genocide in every corner of the earth. Quit murdering whole societies for their resources. Quit claiming to be descended from the Israelites. Quit pretending to be victims of things you cause. Quit telling the American public to support the troops no matter what they’re sent to do. Any of this sound familiar or do you want to deflect some more?

      • http://itsaboutliberty.com Roy Rogers

        You forgot to say you’re gay and we better listen to you or you’ll stomp your little foot

      • neopanther

        Roy. What does that have to do with my actual comment? Unfortunately for you I don’t like men. I suppose that even if I did you would think it would make your point make sense. I like men because you say I do ,right? My tastes are normal. I like women. Please respond with some sort of intelligent reference to what I said. At least humor the people who view this page by attempting to disprove what I said since it’s clear you didn’t like it if you actually can. Also I prefer commenting on things that are accurate and make sense. If you can’t take on what I said please stop trying to one up me by regressing to your six year-old self…assuming there is actually a difference between you now and then.

      • http://itsaboutliberty.com Roy Rogers

        I can hear you stomping your little foot from my front porch…
        SWEET!

        OBTW: Liberals commit genocide, conservatives stop them

      • neopanther

        Still sticking to short,sweet, illogical arguments? Liberals sent troops to Iraq? They’re the ones making tremendous amounts of money from stealing oil and other resources? Hmm…I thought it was the whole bunch. I’m not a liberal so cut the song and dance. Liberals and Conservatives together did all the stuff I just said. If you are dumb enough to believe there is actually a difference between the two parties and don’t know that they’re actually working together you are a complete and hopeless idiot. Again. Please attempt to disprove what I just said or be quiet. I am against anything corrupt this government does. I don’t like this or almost any president that has ever been in office. You assumed I’m liberal. Wrong. You assumed I’m with this president. Wrong again. The position of commander in chief is a puppet’s position. This nation is ruled by special interest groups and money. Please respond with some sign that you have a proper education and something to say besides short juvenile quips. Your analysis of what I just said was simplified to “stomping my feet?” Is that the best you can do? Is there an intelligent mind in there? Can you talk about anything that wasn’t fed to you by someone else? Please regurgitate something that came from study and sharp intellect. I’m beginning to get bored.

      • http://itsaboutliberty.com Roy Rogers

        I’ll try not to step on your intellect if you’ll try posting something relevant

      • neopanther

        Please stop wandering all over the place and addressing everything but my point.

      • neopanther

        Please stop wandering all over the place and addressing everything but my point.

      • neopanther

        Please stop wandering all over the place and addressing everything but my point.

      • lydia

        How stupid can you be. caucasians committed and are still committing genocide all over the corner of the earth. and what so demonic about caucasians, they will poison their own to take over & accomplice their goals, even if it means place floride in your water (which is a pioson). Causasians. lied & stole to get their wealth, called themselves christian missionary, to take over Africa, & the Americans. called themselves Jew to take over Isreal.

      • http://itsaboutliberty.com Roy Rogers

        Off the meds again I see

      • HughGKnutts

        ;-(

      • danjeannine@fuse.net

        What kind of kool aid are you drinking? Trying to make sense of the jungle culture that is pervasive in this country is impossible. Unless the culture changes , society will not improve for blacks.

      • neopanther

        Jungle culture? Did you read what I said about yours? You are the most genocidal, sociopathic, hypocritical, dishonest, greedy, sneaky, and devilish group of people on earth. The only race that does not operate in harmony with nature. Destroys the oceans, ozone layer, the environment, kills of species of plants animals, and are the ones guilty of creating diseases in labs in order to kill whole populations of people in order to steal their resources. All I have to do is pull out a history book to show you that. I have absolutely no faith in your logical skills so I’m not talking to you as if I expect any intelligent and honest response from you whatsoever. White people create stereotypes about people that are actually true about them. They say black people and Hispanic (especially Mexicans) are lazy yet you sat (and still are) on your ass for hundreds of years watching other people do your work. There isn’t a single lie you can tell I can’t poke a hole in. You rot everything you touch yet have the audacity to say anything to anyone. The people who are looting and the people who are protesting are two different groups. In this kind of situation there will always be opportunists who see it as a chance to steal. That has nothing to do with the people who aren’t doing it. The truth is if you want to hate someone all you have to do is dig one bad example from that group out of your ass to say they are all like that. What about your culture? You attempt to make it sound like bad apples represent the entire group yet there are hundreds of years of examples of massive numbers of yours misbehaving throughout history and haven’t changed a bit. You actually are dumb enough to even try to call anyone “jungle” or “savage”. Dude please have a seat before I embarrass you any further.

      • Robert

        Here is one you can try to poke a hole in—you are a racist.

      • Xavier

        Well, somebody touched a nerve, that’s for sure. Nothing stings liberals like the truth, eh?

      • neopanther

        Xavier. Learn to read. I am not a liberal. Not even close.

      • Xavier

        Well, somebody touched a nerve, that’s for sure. Nothing stings liberals like the truth, eh?

      • neopanther

        That’s very easy. Never get mad at a person who retaliates. What I said was retaliation not instigation. That means I would have never said anything had that idiot made the comment. Your choice of addressing me identifies your allegiance. Your comment is far shorter than mine yet it’s easy to tell you’re one. Which comment you chose to respond to says a lot about you. The reference to a “jungle culture” didn’t get a rise out of you. My comment did. After reading what I said you didn’t even attempt to refute anything I said. Nice try.

      • Robert

        Here is one you can try to poke a hole in—you are a racist.

      • Robert

        Here is one you can try to poke a hole in—you are a racist.

      • Robert

        Here is one you can try to poke a hole in—you are a racist.

      • night_hunter

        neopanther, In reply to your racial rant:

        There have been evil people of all races that did great harm
        to their own peoples, as well as others. Pol Pot, Micombero, Idi Amin, Mladic, Hussein
        to name a few of the more recent. All
        one needs to do is look up genocides to get an impressive list of man’s
        inhumanity to man.

        As far as “operate in harmony with nature” is concerned, no group of H. sapiens has done
        that since the invention of tools, and the use of fire. Some groups have historically done better
        than others, and as a modern society, the US
        is certainly doing better than a lot of others, although IMO it could do
        better.

        “Stereotypes” are a human a tendency to group and categorize
        in a general manner. They are admittedly an over simplification, and frequently
        wrong when dealing with individuals. They are, however, generally true of the
        group, otherwise they would NOT have become “stereotypical.”

        As regards “ …you sat (and still are) on your ass for
        hundreds of years watching other people do your work.” I presume you have reference to the practice
        of slavery. Again, a “stereotypical”
        generalization from YOUR POV. I have to
        respond that of the practice of slavery is incredibly ancient, that there is
        not a single group of people that at one time or another have not been
        enslaved, and that currently most of the world has made the practice illegal.
        In the US, that
        occurred 149 years ago, on December
        18, 1865, with the announcement that the 13th Amendment
        had been adopted. From MPOV, the only
        reason the Negro population in the US
        apparently cannot seem to relegate that episode to history and get on with
        their lives in a modern world, is that they still want to be seen as victims.

        “The people who are looting and the people who are
        protesting are two different groups. In this kind of situation there will
        always be opportunists who see it as a chance to steal.” Have to disagree here.
        First, there are numerous means to “protest” injustices without the necessity
        to form a mob and riot. That isn’t a protest, it’s violence. The pictured list
        of “demands” are ludicrous at best. Standard procedure in ALL law enforcement
        is to determine WHY an officer needed to discharge his weapon while on duty. I’ll
        readily admit that some law enforcement officers are simply bullies and thugs
        with a badge, but violence will NOT change that, Only voting people into office that will
        create policies to prevent that, and prosecute those that overstep those bounds,
        will change anything. The “demands” and riots tell me –and the world- that your
        elected authorities are not trusted to do what is right. All I can say is- you
        assisted in that selection.

        “What about your culture? You attempt to make it sound like
        bad apples represent the entire group yet there are hundreds of years of
        examples of massive numbers of yours misbehaving throughout history and haven’t
        changed a bit.” Historically worldwide, there have been individuals and groups
        that did reprehensible things, including here in the United
        States. One of note was the Wounded Knee Massacre.
        On a lesser scale, was be beatings of Rodney
        King and Reginald Denny. Over all,
        however, the US
        is a country with the shining example of attempting to solve its problems
        through legislation and tolerance of
        differences in race, religion, ethnic heritage, and/or economic status. I am not blind to current problems. I do not
        always agree with the decisions of the politicians. But, I am support the
        Constitution, our Republican form of government, and the rule of law. I am a
        veteran and am proud of our military personnel.
        And, I will have to remind you that YOU are a part of OUR culture, enjoy
        the rights and privileges as well as obligations of being a citizen (presuming
        that you are one) or if not at least a resident, with the greatest
        opportunities for success and wealth of any place or any time in the history of
        the world.

        Mob violence, rioting, and theft need to be condemned by
        everyone without exception regardless of what the provocation may be.

      • jgets

        I sincerely respect your commentary’s reasonableness. But my gut tells
        me when you’re dealing with people afflicted with this “anything goes” license, because of a perpetual “I’m a victim” mentality, you’ll eventually end up as either Clint or Charlton (as a civilizational metaphor, that is) in the following clips. I prefer the former.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Xjr2hnOHiM
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idsxgLjGXGI

      • neopanther

        Thank you for helping me prove my point.

      • jgets

        You are very welcome, and do count yourself fortunate that your home is the United States of America. For if you, and more importantly, your ideas on instilling a feeling of guilt based on one’s skin tone had attempted to implant themselves anywhere near where I now reside, neither your ideology, or you, would last a fortnight.

        No bigger crime was committed on black people than to instill in them the idea that they’re entitled to something which they didn’t earn, simply because of their appearance.

      • neopanther

        Listen white bigot. To describe me or anyone like me as feeling “entitled to something that wasn’t earned” is hypocrisy on astronomical levels. You have nothing right now that wasn’t stolen by your family. You thought you were entitled to land that was not yours so you murdered millions of people to get it. You thought oil in other people’s nation was yours so you murdered to get it. You think you have a right to make other people build a nation for you so you did what you wanted to them in order to get it. The bible itself says if you don’t work you don’t eat. If that’s true you should be about to starve. This goes back to what I said about white racists and sociopathy. You honestly tried to accuse me of having an unwarranted sense of entitlement? Are you mentally retarded? If you went to your HR dept. asking them one day why your paycheck was never direct deposited and they scoffed at you and said: “They always think you owe them something.” What would you do? I know one thing. Your mind would go back through the 80 hours you just worked and would explain why you justifiably expect payment. Now attempt to weasel your way out of that one. Now imagine 400 years of free work. The sociopath in your nature will not allow you to see past your skin. That isn’t my issue that’s yours. Building the United States for free and expecting to be able to change the subject is your sense of entitlement. I don’t take criticism from criminals. You are sick and it’s exactly why you were able to bring yourself to make that kind of comment.

      • jgets

        Listen radical extremist desperately in search of an excuse for his “people’s” failure to compete and win civilizationally. Neither I, my family, my ‘race’, owes you a Goddam thing. While your ancestors were supposedly ‘building’ America for free. Mine were fighting off invaders from Asia and Africa in the Southeastern corner of Europe, just as they had been doing for over three millennia. So, you’re not going to make me feel all guilty for surviving, conquering, developing, improving, prospering and most of all expanding. You’re lucky they let you stick around after the Civil War instead of shipping you back. That means you’d be living like a Liberian, btw. By reading your posts I’m starting to be convinced that that was what they should have done to avoid the problems you’ve created in the first place..
        Frankly, you could say my ancestors ‘invented’ the civilization that you bear such a grievance towards. Insecure negro nut jobs like yourself, with serious identity issues, should do exactly what you say you do. Improve your own community. Leave me out of it.

        Like I said. I don’t owe you a Goddam thing.

      • neopanther

        You still live on land you committed genocide to get in the first place. There is a difference between invasions and genocide. Genocide is attempting to wipe someone else out completely. You are trying the same trick the rest of these idiots in here tried. Notice when I poked a hole in your sense of entitlement bullshit you avoided that one. You haven’t a leg to stand on. There isn’t a corner on this earth where people like you didn’t try to wipe other people out. White people create diseases in labs like they did with AIDS. There is a patent on AIDS right now and I have seen it. You do owe someone if you own land you stole from them. If you weren’t wrong you wouldn’t have owed the Native Americans reparations for what you did. You tried to water down the discussion about genocide to “conquering just like everyone else”. No sociopath. It was not like everyone else. They were sociopaths back then with no moral compass and no heart and you are your father’s son. When people “conquered” the people of the conquered nation assimilated into to the culture. Ever heard of Daniel and the other three with him and how that went down? That was the part that was “normal” or consistent with human history. Genocide is not conquering and you’re not going to lie in here that is. If I murdered you today and take what you own and become rich your children would sue me to get it back. You aren’t going to rant your way out of referring to someone who’s stolen property or wages you have as having a sense of entitlement when you thought you’re entitled to something that did not belong to you. Everywhere on this planet to this day are white faces stealing everything whether it’s bolted down or not and then you have the audacity to characterize someone as a criminal. By the way: I know DAMN WELL you aren’t going to do it, but look up the IQ test’s origins. Look at who made it and why. Then look at who brought it to the US and how they used it when they got here. Another thing you hopeless mindless moron. “Shipping us back to Africa?” You haven’t said anything accurate or original. Why the hell would you suggest I go back to Africa that was raped and colonized by a bunch of bigots and devils like you unless the goal is to run your people out of there. That place is so rich with resources there’s a reason why white people wanted it so bad. The reason you suggested that was a good idea is so you can ea what you stole in peace. Name one time any outside nation has invaded any European nation and murdered 10 MILLION people to get their resources? Did you read what I said about King Leopold of Belgium and his treatment of the Congolese people. There are crimes in history that only come from your people and they have not slowed down or stopped. Get an education before you even think of clicking that reply button to say anything to me.

      • jgets

        Um, I’m a little too busy getting ready to watch “Birth of a Nation” for the umpteenth time right now. Stew in you own juice. And I do hope you’re using animal, and not human parts for that stew. that’s a no-no nowadays kitty er, I mean ‘Panther.’ :)

        Enjoy your weekend.

      • neopanther

        No. I don’t eat human parts Dahmer. Just look up what I said if you’re actually interested in learning something besides white propaganda. When you learn the truth you’ll either run or change. I know damn well you aren’t going to learn anything and sure wouldn’t change if you did…and how exactly was I supposed to react to your cornball sense of humor?

      • jgets

        Well, enjoy your stew just the same. And if you get the urge to top it off with a satisfying smoke. Well, obliviously, even you realize by now that it would be a good idea to think twice, and pay for that cigar.

      • wreed22

        Mr. Panther, the obvious reason for all the trouble in Missouri is a serious shortage of Swisher Sweets.
        Attorney General Holder needs to look into this asap.

      • jgets

        Lost his life for a box of Swisher Sweets. Pretty dumb.

        Adds a whole other meaning to ‘Warning: Smoking is harmful to your health”, though.

        Not a total loss.

      • jgets

        I sincerely respect your commentary’s reasonableness. But my gut tells
        me when you’re dealing with people afflicted with this “anything goes” license, because of a perpetual “I’m a victim” mentality, you’ll eventually end up as either Clint or Charlton (as a civilizational metaphor, that is) in the following clips. I prefer the former.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Xjr2hnOHiM
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idsxgLjGXGI

      • neopanther

        I appreciate you attempting to intelligently refute what I said. It is more than I can say for the other people in this forum. There is next to nothing you said that is true. You tried to water down what I said about “operating in harmony with nature”. Wrong. Completely. Who are the people who own the industries that destroy the environment, the ozone layer, poisoning the water? Everyone? You tried to make it sound like EVERYONE does it. Wrong. On your attempt to soften western slavery. Wrong. The differences between modern slavery and historical slavery are massive. Ever single white person who attempts to say black people are playing the victim tries this. Here is the difference: Chattel slavery is a system based on dehumanizing the person and relegating them to the status of an animal or a tool. Slavery as mentioned in ancient times (even in the bible) was usually short term servitude to pay off debts. The person was treated humanely (again usually) and there were countless stories of the slave marrying into the family or becoming wealthy. Serfdom was definitely nothing but slavery but didn’t begin to come even close to the one I referred to. You also can NOT name any instance in history when you saw MILLIONS of people taken out of a continent to go to the other side of the world to be treated like cattle. There was also no slavery attached to race in the old world. Europeans got together and signed a non-aggression pact with each other so they could get rich and avoid spending money and lives on fighting over the land they were stealing. Saying “there is some truth to stereotypes” is simply making excuses for the actions of your people. It is a dazzling stretch to call a group of people lazy for building a nation with their own hands while the people who assigned the stereotype sat on their ass. You didn’t know that’s a stretch? Who’s lazy? The one who found a way to get others to do their work or the one who did the work? The difference between all of you and I is I know African history very well and I know yours. You barely know yours. If you did you wouldn’t attempt to make the claims you do.

        Another ridiculous comment you made was trying to group all the black people in that situation as one group. Not only was that blatantly stupid but it reveals that though you tried to come off as polite there is no difference between you and the ones referring to a “jungle culture” which you did not choose to address. What a surprise. When everything went down with Katrina the media referred to black people in photographs gathering food from stores as “looters”. The white people doing exactly the same thing were referred to as “finders”. I’ve seen the clips. The family of the young man asked everyone to NOT riot or destroy stores and all that stuff. If the looters and rioters speak for all of us the inbreeders from West Virginia and KKK speak for you. Whatever they do you do. See what I did there? You have not been the victim of racial profiling and discriminatory practices and thus do not know what it’s like. I have. Numerous studies have been conducted showing that when a person’s name is “ethnic” enough they do not get called back. How they conduct the study is they send out numerous applications with almost identical qualifications and the ones that sound white get calls back astronomically. The same sneaky exclusionary tactics are alive and well so since you are familiar with oversimplification take a good luck at what you just tried to do with the “black people are perpetual victims bullshit you just tried to pass off as reasonability. Violent protests against oppressive entities are VERY common worldwide. I can’t remember what nation, but I watched a documentary on how American television has affected the world and it discussed a nation that LOVED Dallas. Larry Hagman went to their nation and spoke to the people there who were under a very oppressive dictatorial family. The dictator brought him in to show the people the “evils” of American excess. It backfired and the people executed the dictator and his whole family. When people get tired of oppression this is what happens. When the colonists in the 1700’s got tired of England’s king they didn’t hold hands and kiss they took up arms. You only sign off on anything violent if it’s white. Again. Remember you never said anything about the bigoted comments I responded to. You chose mine. What does that say about you? Making racist comments gently is still making racist comments. When Reagan was running for office he fabricated a story about a “Cadillac driving welfare queen” he said he observed. This mythical woman was never shown or found of course, but the bs stuck. From then on the media went to work on making the American public have a very Pavlovian reaction when they hear the word “welfare”. The first thing that comes to a racist white mind when they hear that word is black despite the fact that most people on welfare are white. Let you tell it and everyone who is on or abuses that system is black. You are no different than the people barking “jungle” culture. The reference to white people SPECIFICALLY being the ones being the world’s greatest purveyors of violence were not inaccurate nor were they on par with anything else that happens in history. Ever read about 10 MILLION PEOPLE in the Congo and King Leopold of Belgium who murdered for their resources? What other group can you name who does that besides Europeans? We can go on for hours naming specifics of things Europeans have and are doing to literally destroy everyone else and use the media to appear innocent while doing it. This liberal/conservative stupidity has your people in a perpetual tailspin because the people who mean to rule this planet are working together on both sides of the aisle to strip us all of our rights and create ONE government. The prison system has become a way to circumvent the old slavery system and is set up the way it is to destroy anyone it can disfranchise. Do some reading on the IQ system (which came from Germany) and then look up what they were using it for. Also look up the Eugenics program, planned parenthood…etc…etc…etc. Then you MIGHT know enough to hold this conversation. Also there are massive amounts of leaders working on the issues facing black America INTERNALLY. I am one such leader. There are organizations designed to dismantle bad neighborhoods, increase college attendance numbers, wipe out gangs, and improve representation of the people in the worst situations. The media does not show these things for their own convenience and your post proves you believe what they show. I spoke with Malcolm X’s daughter who is a lecturer and author who works tirelessly to improve things. Dave Chappelle’s mother is an educational giant and I’ve spoken to her as well. Your limited point of view has led to ignorance and assumptions. I have no such limits. I do however, respect you and my comments were not aimed at white people who are not guilty of the practices I named, but keep in mind that if you do not do anything about it you are just as responsible as the rest.

      • http://grumpyelder.com/ Grumpy

        Black Slavery still exists.. Obama’s brother Malik has ties to Omar al-Bashier, possibly the biggest enabler of black slavery in the world..
        North African Slave raiders were hitting Europe, as far north as Ireland and Iceland before the first European ships captain bought any slaves from the Black African Muslims. The later were the ones were raiding villages and selling their victims to mostly Arabs.. With the exception of one or two raids by the Portuguese, none of the European countries engaged in slave raids in Black Africa…

        The word slave originated from the number of white slaves the Muslims harvested from the Slavic Countries

      • neopanther

        You are addressing what I said in completely the wrong context and are attempting to support an argument I didn’t make. I never said there have never been anyone who was enslaved beside the transatlantic slave trade we are most familiar with. You guys really need to work on your reading comprehension. One dimwit said I was a liberal. I corrected him. Another one came and said I was a liberal. You guys have already made up your mind what you think logic be damned. Whether or not other groups have been enslaved is not what I was discussing. What I WAS saying is there has been NO slavery on earth that rivals the transatlantic slave trade. There was no emphasis on dehumanizing people to the levels Europeans did. Did you really just say the Portuguese were the only ones who engaged in slave raids? You are either a complete moron or think I am. Every single country in Europe that was a power in that time period engaged in it. Another lie white people like to perpetuate is about Africans selling slaves and that is mostly where they got them. Wrong. Most of them (not even close) were kidnapped directly. I already explained the difference between chattel slavery and the kind known in the old world. Once African nations saw what Europeans were up to they began fighting off white slave traders. White people attempt to say that Africans were not unified and that was their own downfall. Another lie. There are 110 different ethnic groups. Africa is a continent not a country. Most of those people piled up in ships couldn’t understand each other because they didn’t speak the same language. During Europe’s wars for power if someone came to drag off French captives Great Britain wouldn’t have gotten up in arms saying: “Because we’re white too it’s our responsibility to stand up for Frenchie!” People in those days identified more with nationality and not race. This white/black bullshit is Western, mostly American, and recent. Africans identified themselves by their nationality just like anyone else did. This is why it’s so dangerous to allow careless interpretations of history. What you just did is distort (you probably believed those lies yourself) history to make it seem like your ancestors did nothing different than anyone else.

      • http://grumpyelder.com/ Grumpy

        There’s a very informative You Tube titled “The Arab Muslim Slave Trade Of Africans, The Untold Story” You might enjoy it.. It’s estimated that the Arab-African trade, which has lasted 1400 years has taken over 140,000,000 African Victims.. Many times the number that landed in New World..

        Of those who landed in the New World, what’s now the United States only ended up with about 5% of them.. The rest went to South America and the Caribbean.. Most of the white Irish war widows that were sold into slavery following the assorted wars with England ended up as breeding stock in the Caribbean as well..

        If White Americans/Europeans were the primary reason for the African Slave Trade.. why does it still exist …

        If racism in the United States were to be completely extinguished by rational people.. a lot of money would be lost.. The likes of Sharpton, Jessee Jackson, as well as the leadership of organizations like the KKK, New Black Panthers and the Southern Poverty Law Center would all have to start working for a living

      • neopanther

        It’s about time someone in here started saying something that is accurate. I HATE Jesse Jackson and always have. The black panthers are not a racist organization. We will get into that in a moment. Jesse Jackson is an uncle tom and opportunist. He came to my school and only met with members of his fraternity and any other ass kissers he could find. Some people in that kind of leadership are there because they’re elitists and looking to make a living off the grievances of the people. Jesse Jackson is a photo op leader. He goes and gets involved long enough to get his picture taken and then leaves the local leadership to clean up the real mess. Your assessment of him is 100% accurate. Your numbers about those who came to the US and those who went to South America and the Caribbean is also accurate. I am descended from the ones who went to Cuba, the Dominican Republic and the Irish that were in Cuba. There is a family there named Velasquez. They are my ancestors and I’ve met some of them. The only thing you didn’t say that was accurate was your assessment of white people not being the primary reason for the slave trade. For the third time. I did not say slavery did not exist before or even after the transatlantic slave trade nor did I say white people were the only ones who did that. What I am asserting is that chattel slavery is DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER KINDS, why, and to what extent. Now. Africa is in the condition it’s in (I can see you’re educated and that’s good) because of European colonization. There is also a worldwide problem of them invading other people and controlling their societies. It’s what’s going on in the middle east. It’s why they want people to think they’re the Egyptians. Here’s my suggestion for you: Watch all three parts of the Hidden Colors documentary. You can easily download it (from the bay of pirates if you know what I mean by that). Now back to the main point of this whole thing. White supremacy is NOT limited to the United States and is one of the biggest problems in the entire world. I said before that there are plenty of black people and leaders working on the internal black American issues facing them. You only see what the media wants you to. This has so far been a good conversation and can be used for good things.

      • wreed22

        I missed the part about sub-sahara African civilization reaching the pinnacle of of human existence before the Europeans showed up.
        So tribal genocide in Rawanda and other areas was caused by the memory of European Colonials? The Germans colonized Rawanda in 1894 and organized and recorded the population as Tutsi or Hutu. Up to that point the local designations were fluid and mostly economics based. So 100 years later, the Hutu’s went on a massive slaughter campaign after the President’s (Hutu) plane was shot down. Obviously the German’s fault. If it happens in another 100 years, it will still be the Germans fault I guess. White Supremacy.
        Robert Mugabe’s record of rule is some distant dead white guys fault? On and on and on. White Supremacy.
        Concerning the “internal black American issues being handled by Black Leaders.” Jessie Jackson, yes you are right (his son will take over as soon as he is out of the pokey), THE Reverend Al Sharpton (Tawana Brawley- Freddie’s Fashion Mart-snitch for the FBI fame), Adam Clayton Powell Jr. (yesteryears crook), Kwame Kilpatrick (what can Detroit do for me?), Charlie Rangel ( oh gosh, I forgot about that), William Jefferson (cool cash.) On and on and on. White Supremacists picking Black Leaders?
        The Liberal Black Plantation is very much alive and well, keeping all well informed, fatherless households together in poverty, but giving meager handouts for votes. The Liberal Masters know best, right?
        By the way, do you have any extra Swisher Sweets?

      • jgets

        Now WR, you don’t really expect pussycat to acknowledge these events. It would mean admitting he’s just as flawed as the rest of us.

      • Xavier

        TL;DR

      • wreed22

        Proof reading and brevity.

      • neopanther

        If you have nothing to contribute please be quiet.

      • *sigh*

        ALL RIGHT! EVERYBODY JUST SHUT UP A MINUTE!
        In between all of the ridiculously verbose rants, the yah, frankly raciest comments, and nonsensical name calling, you have all gotten rather far away from the point. We’re talking planets away. So lets all just agree on one thing: The media has been asked to leave town or face arrest. This is in direct violation of the first amendment. This is not good. Understand?

      • neopanther

        Replying to my comment saying “EVERYBODY” doesn’t exactly address “everybody” does it?

      • Xavier

        Who told you that? The media?

        Hmmm.

      • anarchyst

        “neopanther” is a descendant of those low-IQ, substandard African types that was (unfortunately for us) brought to this country.
        “neopanther” possesses the attitude that blames everyone else for his (and his races’) own problems. His racism is readily apparent.
        You see, the African chiefs were not stupid. They sold their low IQ, substandard slackers and conquests of tribal warfare into bondage while keeping the “best and brightest” for themselves.
        That being said, “we should have picked our own cotton”…

      • Mike Crowson

        You be a good negro and stick with all dem talking points somebody else had to write for you . Or as far as. I am concerned you can go stick your penis in your own arse !!

      • neopanther

        1) First don’t try to impose your fantasies on me. 2) I actually make real points not farcical cartoon bullshit. If you have nothing intelligent to say leave that to me. You’re clearly incapable of that. By the way: The people who actually talk like that learned English from southern white people. Think about that for a moment.

  • B. Smith

    So, let me get this straight……something bad happened to someone in that community in a St. Louis suburb. So the response is to trash your neighborhood and burn down your own stores? This seems to be a pattern for the black communities….I don’t get it.

    • Renee Nal

      I don’t get it either. Seems to be a crime of opportunity and all of those who took part should be arrested and prosecuted, especially those who injured police officers. That being said, I am very disturbed that the police would not allow the local media in the area. I am as disillusioned with the media as everyone else, but that is crossing a scary line.

      • Phil

        Get used to it your rights can be terminated for your own good. Your 1st, 2nd & 4th amendment rights are subjective issues now.
        The debate seems to be; do you have the right to have rights.

      • commonsense

        The reason media are being asked to leave is for their own safety. Photos of the rioters carrying guns are everywhere and with the tension in the air, it would only take half of a nanosecond for a rioter to kill a reporter because they don’t want to be on the news so that their identity will be known. I used to be in media and standard protocol in any riot or disaster is to stay out of the situation to ensure your and your camera crew’s safety, you’re required to either leave or go to a designated area. Cops have enough to worry about right now than babysitting a reporter that can’t take care of themselves because they don’t have self defense training and are probably unarmed.

      • Renee Nal

        That makes sense (hence your name). And let’s be honest, the people who made the decision to attack their own neighborhood on Sunday night brought this response for police who did not want to see a repeat of the looting/violence. On the other hand, it feels like a fuzzy line to me – where police response turns into martial law and suppression of the press. And those people behind the scenes – the radical left wing groups urging the protests – can also take their share of blame.

      • jen

        I guess bloggers and twitter really have become the on-the-ground news reporters of today. Media used to have more guts. Or were the police and the military the ones taking all those classic, iconic photos of race riots and wartime atrocities? They must have just appeared like magic, since reporters were all safe and cosy, kept away in ‘designated areas’. Hope the news comes to you, hmm? Must be the new motto. ‘American Media- we’ll wait over here’.

      • B. Smith

        I agree with your take on the police banning the media. That troubles me too.

      • Xavier

        Rev. Al will arrive there today, and he’ll explain to the protesters that the media is their friend. He’ll also explain to the media to only run stories that are sympathetic to the protester’s cause. The unrest that the good Reverend stokes will be ignored, youts will get their free wine and telebishion sets, angry mothers will scream and cry as they play to the camera, the media will dutifully convict whitey, and Holder’s Racial Justice Stormtroopers will motivate the blacks to vote early and vote often in the fall elections. Déjà vu.

      • windywillows357

        You should have left the lst paragraph off. Are you as troubled with the reports of the police offer smashed in the face?

      • Xavier

        No, not “as troubled” about those reports because the police offer [sic] is still alive.

        Everyone involved – the black community, the police, the activist groups and leaders, the DOJ, the President – has their own agenda and will lie to promote it. Maybe the truth will come out in court, but I’d be very careful about making judgements about the police or the victim at this point.

      • neopanther

        I’ve seen you all up and down in this forum. You are clearly one of the bigots in here and have carefully avoided voicing what you really think. You clearly have been hearing that a cop shot a teenager with his hands in the air and you care about a cop getting punched in the face. You are just as cowardly and bigoted as the rest of these yahoos in here. This is why I keep reminding all of you of sociopathy.

    • Xavier

      Burning down the ‘hood will bring in a new round of “inner-city investment” funding and race driven loans. Besides, I’d bet other ethnic groups own and operate those stores so most of the the looting and arson is actually targeting non-blacks. What we’re seeing is tribalism, though I doubt many there are aware of it.

      • jgets

        Oh, we’re aware of it. We’re just not allowed to do anything about it without ending up in prison. Don’t take the law into your own hands, Human Rights, Liberty, Equality, Rule of Law, and all that…Some of us are also aware that none of that high minded stuff actually functions anymore. Reality hasn’t come knocking on the door of most insulated, comfortable, complacent folks. When it does, well….it won’t be pretty.

        Btw, that particular tribal/demographic group (the looter in picture) is one of ISIS’s biggest hopes for America. They’ve got great plans for those boys…

      • wreed22

        I must say that anytime I am frustrated or angry about anything, my first impulse is to wear my pants low and knock over a 7-11.
        Burn Baby Burn.
        Wait a minute. I did’t see the pics of
        old white people looting. What gives?
        jgets, the looter pictured
        is strictly an entry level suicide bomber. Remote switch.
        Ebonics with Rev Al Lata.

      • jgets

        Thanks for making me laugh.

      • jgets

        Thanks for making me laugh.

      • Sam Houston

        Yep, that dirty punk lifter 3 bottles of cheep hooch. Must be under aged and hoping to hook up with the ladies.

      • Sam Houston

        During Katrina here in the New Orleans area, they robbed and pillaged everything. There was a reason why some bridges were manned by the Police with guns. They Navy Base in Algiers had to have a security detail helicoptered in because they were trying to constantly jump the perimeter fence to get at the Commissary and Exchange. They broke into pawn shops, Walmarts, Academy Sports and stole all the guns and ammo. No word has ever been given as to the whereabouts of those weapons but the high murder rate in Orleans Parish lends credence that they are still in the hands of the looters. They burned down the only mall on the Westbank after they looted and vandalized it. It was the largest tax revenue for the town of Gretna. They drove beer trucks loaded with sneakers, new TVs, fake fur coats, and other looted items but claim they were out looking for water and food. They were told to leave but most stayed because they new looting would be easy and bring in a big take.

  • NaCly Dog

    More troubling is the lack of coverage of the extent of the problems. The US media is not communicating what they know.

    Times of India and the UK paper Telegraph seem to have better information in a more timely manner. It’s like self-censorship of the US press, which the police did not ask for.

    • aez

      Right or wrong, the police know two things: they cannot trust the press, and the activists are in charge. I imagine those factor in.

  • scott

    ok folks,time for me to be called a racist once again,It seems some black kid,the chosen and protected animal of the Obobo cause has been shot while escaping police custody,what is the result,yup you guessed it,another excuse for the mongrel tribe of useless blacks to go out and start to rob piledge and plunder.They are attacking people,robbing stores and burning down the ghetto,when are you sheep going to wake up and demand action against these animals.The only solution to a nuisance animal is open season,they do it with feral wild hogs and coyotes why not these useless breeds of humans?

  • Timothy Q Williams

    Maybe they was just trying to keep the news media safe or out of the way for their own protection. Or maybe they didnt want people trying to get their five mins of fame on camera. Reguardless the reason, the story should be an officer was attacked in his car , shots were fired attacker is dead . In other news Criminals are rioting in the streets disstroying the very town they live in. My personal opinion , Cops in that town should go on strike They already have a bad name there , So just sit back for a while and let the people control themselves for a little while And in about a week maybe two, with the police out of the picture not doing anything I mean nothing . The people that are complaining will be begging them to do their job

  • melanie faulkner

    A bunch of criminals to stupid to know that businesses will leave the area and never come back putting them out of jobs and making them have to go further to shop.

  • http://itsaboutliberty.com Roy Rogers

    Al Sharpton will make everything alright…
    Pass the ammo

  • Finkster

    Now we can see one of the biggest reasons why our Congress has not brought Impeachment charges against Obama and his lawless administration.
    Every major metro area in the United States would go through this lawlessness if he were to be Impeached.But worse is the fact that it would bring about race riots that would make Watts Riots and the Rodney King Riots look like grade school.
    One of the reasons the Progressive liberal Left keeps trumping the race card. It’s not about race. It’s all about the Leftist and their agenda of socialization in America. Putting the fear into Congress and State Elected Officials that is supposed to be responsible and they keep going along with the Unconstitutional Agenda of the Progressives Liberal Ideology.
    And this was just one community all in rage because of an out of control lawless punk.
    It’s just an excuse used by the lawless and the Liberal Democrats seeking to garner power to move their agenda along.

    • Sam Houston

      Let it. We have to stop kowtowing to fear. It is coming anyway when US Dollar collapses from Obama and his greedy wealthy Progressive Elite pals’ intentional destruction of our economy. No money means no more free stuff. The entitlement mentality will kicking into overdrive and all hell will break loose. Mark these words.

  • NaCly Dog

    It looks like the lack of visable control in Ferguson led to a number of opportunistic looters arriving from outside the town. An analysis of the arrest records would prove that the residents of Ferguson were not trashing their own town.

    However, with the exception of some business owners I see no reporting of residents protecting their neighborhoods with their own weapons.

    Contrast this with the actions of the parents and neighbors of Condoleezza Rice in the Birmingham riots.

  • Sam Houston

    Walmart EBT fiasco courtesy of the the Democratic Economic Plantation. Now they are growing a new breed out of illegals who will soon erupt with the same lack of morals and social desires to be anything more than straight up selfish.

    • Jarin

      Lacking morals, nothing but straight-up selfish… sounds like the Ferguson PD.

      • Sam Houston

        How so? I did not see a single Ferguson Cop riot or loot.

    • neopanther

      You’re concerned about illegals? Aren’t you the biggest group of illegals here? Please explain to me why you have any business being on this continent? You have the nerve to criticize anyone bigot?

      • Sam Houston

        You seemed to be questioning whether I am a bigot or not. Perhaps you are confused as to my nerve to speak the truth. Either way, you are undoubtedly professing yourself to be an illegal as well. So it is agreed that Anglo Whites, Hispanic Whites, Arab Whites, Blacks, Asians, Latinos, Chicanos, Tejanos, Aztecs, Mayans, Caribbeans, Incas are all illegal immigrants in this land that of the Native American First Nations and Tribes. None of ya’ll belong here. My wife’s Family are Houma Native and they say get the heck out.

      • neopanther

        You are wandering all over the place and did not once address what I said. Any time you see a white person talking about illegals after they murdered, kidnapped, raped, diseased and committed genocide to get where they are you are witnessing a blatant hypocrite. I’m not here “illegally”. The same way if someone forced you to move somewhere at gun point makes you not guilty of any crime. You are still “squatting” on land stolen by your family and you’re talking about someone else. My family is native American on my father’s side. My grandfathers mother is Native American. Your comments are typical for a white person crying foul when arguing over the land he stole “fair an square”. The only group of people truly here illegally crying the most.

      • Sam Houston

        O contraire mon frere. I too have Native American Ancestry in my bloodline. My grandma’s grandma was full blood First Nation. My Children from my first marriage have Cherokee blood and the Children from my second have Houma Native from their full blood Mother. You put forth the same flawed logic of LA Raza – “You don’t belong here because you stoel the land”.
        First all La Raza are the hypocrites as they, themselves are descendants of Europeans who stole far more land that the Anglos. They also committed wholesale genocide, rape, pillage, and enslavement of a far great number of Indigenous Peoples that the Anglos. Second, not all land in the Continental US was occupied by First Nations Peoples. There were swaths of land not even claimed by any Nations or Tribes. Contrary to the Left’s tinkering with history, all the First Nations were not this one big happy family of Natives. Many did not consider each other connected in anyway. They warred and sometime eradicated one another. So taking empty land, not claimed by anyone is stealing? If so, that would mean that the entire human population is illegal. Anglos are not the only illegals then. All Blacks are illegals that stole land from the Native. You could argue that the Blacks originally came here as slaves, not of their own accord. True and not so true. Many free Blacks came to the US after escaping or being freed from the plantations in the Caribbean, thereby nullifying that argument. Then there is the simple fact that once slavery was abolished in the US, all Blacks that stayed then took on your legal definition of illegal and land thief.

        Then there is the whole point of contention about land purchases by the USA from other governments that had already stolen the land from the Native like Spanish Florida, French Louisiana, and Mexican Southwest. The Great Republic of Texas came to be from land that was stolen by the Spanish that Texians and Tejanos freed from Mexican tyranny. Then the USA annexed the Great Republic of Texas. So these vast swaths of land were not stolen from the Natives by Anglo Americans. This does not, however, condone, make excuses, admonish, or forgive the US Government for the many treaties broken by the US Government, the atrocities committed, and the continuing Federal enslavement of our Peoples.

  • http://itsaboutliberty.com Roy Rogers

    Remember when looters will be shot on sight?
    Ahhhh…. Good times…..

  • Scott Watkins

    Anyone thinking that actions of the Ferguson PD are unique needs to pull their head out of the sand. Police corruption is rampant nationwide, and public outrage is reaching critical mass. Until police are stopped from policing themselves this cycle will end very badly for everyone. Without citizen oversight and full transparency of all police grievance/review boards they will protect each other at OUR cost.

  • Joanne Rang

    People obey the laws because they believe they are there for their safety. They obey the police for the same reason. The government and police can abuse this to a great extent, but after a certain point, people are going to start fighting back. If the cops don’t obey the laws, why should anyone else? We have our own guns, and there are probably a lot more angry citizens than there are cops. If something doesn’t change, I wouldn’t be surprised in this escalating to a full-blown war.

  • Marylandbob

    Police want to clear out the media, so they can commit MORE civil rights violations, unseen!

  • anarchyst

    1. Eliminate both “qualified” and absolute” immunity for ALL public officials. This includes, police and firefighters, all court officials, code enforcement and “child protective service” personnel. Require all public officials and employees who deal with the public to purchase and maintain personal liability (malpractice) insurance at their own expense as a condition of employment. You can bet that insurance companies would be more efficient in rooting out the “bad apples”. No insurance=no job.
    2. Require all public officials to maintain a video and audit trail when dealing withe the public. Equipment malfunction would NOT be an excuse and would be grounds for immediate and permanent dismissal and loss of pension. Wearable personal equipment would be mandatory–no dash cams.
    3. Prosecutors must have NO immunity and should be subordinate to the grand jury. As it stands now, grand juries are “rubber stamps” for prosecutors. Grand juries should be able to indict without seeking a prosecutor’s “permission”.
    4. Civilian police review boards should be comprised of citizens with NO police ties. Those with police officers as relatives would automatically be disqualified from serving on civilian police review boards.
    5. Police agencies should be prohibited from investigating themselves. Outside disinterested agencies should investigate charges and accusations of police wrongdoing, preferably at the county sheriff or state police level.
    6. “Asset forfeiture” should be abolished. It is nothing but a corrupting influence (and a good moneymaker). It is legalized robbery at its best.
    These changes would do much to reign in abuses by all public officials………..

  • jgets

    What does a north-American negro, descendant of sub-Saharan slaves, sold to the trans-Atlantic slavers by his fellow tribesmen, like yourself, have anything to do with the mixed race, but predominately Arab and Berber, North African Moors? Whose architecture, city planning, philosophy, and science was acquired (in most part, then subsequently developed and improved on their own, but still based mostly on the Greco-Roman) from the Byzantines, and to a lesser extent, Persians and Indians. The Moors thought about the sub-Saharans in pretty much the same terms as the Europeans did, you bloody moron — use them as slaves and arrow fodder. Hellenic (Western) civilization developed quite independently from sub-Saharan cannibal cultures. You think Socrates, Plato ans Aristotle were taught by African witch doctors? Obviously you believe in the discredited ‘Black Athena’ theory as well. Of course there was an interchange of ideas and trade between civilizations (Mediterranean, Near East, Egypt), that is only natural. But to think sub-Saharan cultures could teach European ones anything is insane. You have a serious inferiority complex. Get yourself some psychiatric assistance. Please. Or better yet go back to the Mother Continent. I’m sure they’ll appreciate the return of people with such expertise as yourself – while muttering under they breath ‘as if we didn’t have enough problems’.

    My apologies to all decent people out there who I might inadvertently offend through the use of my language. I draw a distinction between people who just happen to be of color (or not), and niggers obsessed with revenge, against something or someone they cannot even properly define.

    • wreed22

      well jgets, I know you have a low opinion of the Urainian leadership and various right wing parties, but they don’t seem to be afraid of the Russians.

      • jgets

        Did I miss something WR?

        Last I checked, things were pretty much
        unchanged in the Ukraine and the first gust of Field Marshall von Winter
        is arriving in less than sixty days.

        As for the Ukies propaganda machine, it will end up being as decisive to the operational situation as Goebbels was.

        How many times did they announce “Stalingrad is ours” anyway?

        Before and after picture of one poor kid they juiced up (nazi salute) serving as a Ukrainian paratrooper. He’s lucky he’s still alive. Most of his buddies aren’t.

        https://pp.vk.me/c614821/v614821148/158f0/t_tq5Kj1_Yc.jpg

        I hate what’s going on there.

        Anyway, be well WR :)

      • wreed22

        I was referring to the Russian Armored column that stuck it’s nose into NE Ukrainian territory on Thursday or Friday.
        The Ukrainians caught them by surprise on their (Russians) flank and decimated the front end of the column.

      • jgets

        Have seen that report WR but cannot verify if that’s what actually occurred. Large amounts of equipment and newly trained Novorossiyans have entered the Donbas in recent days though. The Ukies could have hit one of those columns.

        Russian regulars aren’t in this in any meaningful numbers yet. If they go in, they’ll clean up. No doubt. I’d rather they didn’t though, even if civilians are suffering, cause (I don’t want to be an alarmist but) it could get out of hand big time.

        I expected the situation to turn critical for the rebels last week, it seems as if they’ve weathered the storm.

        I would ‘really really’ prefer if the diplomats solved this.

        I’ve already had to Evac one in-law and the stress of this war has broken up the marriage of one of our close friends. There other stuff, can’t write about it in public though.

        No deaths of people we know personally yet, if that’s any consolation when innocents are dying for nothing that is.

      • wreed22

        Very sorry the situation is that bad for you and your family.

      • jgets

        I’m ok WR, thank you for your kindness.

        And just to show show how little real hatred there is, once you get to know someone…. both my wife and I are jokingly considered (cold) ‘war booty’ by the military members of our respective families :)

  • wreed22

    Ah, brevity, proof reading, and some stab at organization. Just one comment if I may. (okay, several) It seems the Moor’s educational distribution system has, shall we say, emaciated since the 7th century. Yes, yes, the good ole days.
    The Germans did begin the “legal” categories of Tutsi and Hutu. The Germans sharing partnership with Belgium helped the Ruling Junta conquer surrounding kingdoms.
    In 1961 the Belgians pulled out and left the country to the “natives”. It has been a paradise ever since. Along with the rest of Sub-Saharan Africa.
    I have some beautiful postcards from Lagos taken by Boko Haram.
    You tube has some travelogue footage of a bit of good old fashion cannibalism.
    I believe Idi Amin Dada enjoyed the delicacy of anthropophagy on occasion. I wonder if the Saudis did his shopping for lunch and dinner. It is probably a bit heavy for breakfast.
    By the way, what wine compliments body parts? I am thinking Freemark Abbey 1975 Cabernet. Still somewhat acidic and astringent after all these years.
    I understand Swisher Sweets are an excellent palate cleanser.
    Bon appetit !

    • neopanther

      Take a good look at this. http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/europes-hypocritical-history-of-cannibalism-42642371/?no-ist Since Europe has no record of said cannibalism. Probably why you are interested in what wine goes with body parts. Also look up Vlad the Impaler. Anything else about cannibalism? What about this guy? http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/videos/vladimir-the-cannibal/

    • wreed22

      Mr. Panther, it has been a great deal of fun, but jgets will have to take over for a while. Keep your skin thin and your temper high and you will excel in all your endeavors.
      You are awaiting moderation, but I can see your comment. It’s a white thing (LOL).
      Yes, centuries ago everyone seemed to be less civilized. The eating habits, in parts of Africa I referred to, were taking place in the late 20th century. Bad form I am afraid.
      Fight the good fight. And never order the wrong wine, unless you are in the third world. Stick to imported beer.
      Best Regards to you Mr. Panther.

  • jgets

    I’m afraid I’ve lost interest in your posts. But I did deem it proper that I inform you of my decision.

    You’re entitled to that much, at least.