Audio: Gain-of-function researcher described work, credited Fauci-directed funding

Audio: Gain-of-function researcher described work, credited Fauci-directed funding
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[Ed. – Dr. Baric was one of the principals in the famous study published in 2015 involving Wuhan and UNC.  The audio interview was in 2015.]

The November 22nd, 2015 episode of the show This Week In Virology – “It’s not SARS 2.0” – features Baric as a guest to discuss a paper he recently co-authored: “A SARS-like Cluster of Circulating Bat Coronaviruses Shows Potential for Human Emergence.” …

The paper discussed on the podcast … repeatedly prefaces its findings with acknowledgments that the relevant research was completed before an October 2014 ban on gain-of-function research:

“ … This paper has been reviewed by the funding agency, the NIH. Continuation of these studies was requested, and this has been approved by the NIH”


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“You were interested in the coronaviruses in bats that were SARS-like,” the interviewer inquires with Baric, who responds “that’s correct.”

“Your strategy was to take a human SARS coronavirus strain and substitute its spike with that of SHC014, and you found that this could infect human cells and mice. Now that’s part of what generated a lot of controversy about this paper because you made a new virus, and Simon Wain-Hobson said this virus doesn’t exist in nature, and who knows what would happen if it got out,” the interviewer follows up.

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