[Ed. – Not quite feeling sorry for him.]
Piers: “Explain to me. Let me learn something here. Why it is so offensive for somebody like you who grew up a boy into your teenage years…you were biologically a boy, that you then have gender reassignment surgery and you become a woman and you always felt you were a woman. … I did not dispute that … and I don’t dispute it now… I want to learn why is it so offensive to say that you grew up as a boy because you always felt you were female you had surgery to become a woman, to become a real woman as you say in the book. Why is it offensive?”
[Janet] Mock discussed “gender expectations in our culture.” She said we are born and assigned a sex at birth, something humans have no control over: “It’s not about what surgeries I may or may not have had… It’s about who I am right now… That’s what I was on this show to do.”
Piers asked Mock if she disputes that she was born a boy. Mock replied, “I was born a baby who was assigned male at birth. I did not identify or live my life as a boy. As soon as I had enough agency in my life to grow up, I became who I am, and this did not start at 18 when I went to Thailand to have surgery. It started when I was 6-years-old and saw me for who I was.” Piers ultimately said he felt she threw him to the wolves: “By the way, I don’t mind. I can take it, I’m a big boy … however I do think it was a little unfair that you sparked off this firestorm of abuse to me when I’m a supporter of your community and always have been.”
Just a brief note on covering members of the transgender community. They used to hold lobbying days on Capitol Hill, in which they’d come and talk to lawmakers about issues of import. When I was a full-time congressional reporter, I always made it my business to shadow them because they were genuinely fascinating. They hadn’t led a life like mine and they had deeply heartening, moving stories to share. I fought heatedly with an editor about proper pronouns. Having zero journalistic experience with the issue, I felt strongly that calling a person who felt she was a she “she” was the proper thing to do. My editor strongly disagreed, citing chromosomal evidence. Some of the people I interviewed were men with mustaches and vaginas. Others were women with breasts, penises and deep voices. They candidly explained these things to me and more. They boldly told me some of the most personal, guarded details about themselves. As a reporter, that’s the height of being a journalist, to hear people’s deepest thoughts and secrets. To pretend these stories were mainstream is crazy. To accuse Piers of being offensive for not normalizing this woman’s life in the exact ways she wanted is ludicrous.
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