Would tougher gun laws have prevented the Friday massacre in a small Connecticut town that claimed 27 lives, 20 of them children? The sad truth, as J.E. Dyer notes, is “not likely.” The weapons used in the attacks were “clean purchases” (they belonged to the shooter’s mother) and in a state that already has some of the most stringent gun laws in the nation. Nevertheless, the debate over the issue has begun in both the media and in government and is certain to intensify in days and weeks to come.
In the meantime, two New York churches have launched independent initiatives to take guns off the street and out of the hands of potential assassins.
The New York Post reports:
Two Brooklyn pastors opened their churches Saturday to the city’s Gun Buyback program. Anyone can trade in their weapon for a $200 bank card. The transactions are anonymous.
The churches, which will remain open for gun-for-cash transactions until 4 p.m. are Mt. Ollie Baptist Church in the Brownsville neighborhood and St. Peters Lutheran Church in Cypress Hills.
New York’s Mayor, Michael Bloomberg, the article notes, is at the forefront of a national gun-control effort. He is supported in his efforts by Democratic Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, who lost her husband in 1993 when a crazed gunman opened fire on a commuter train. It was, in fact, murderous the rampage aboard an eastbound Long Island Rail Road car that catapulted Maloney, a nurse by profession, to enter the political arena.
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I’d have more respect for the gun control nuts if they’d just admit that the only way to stop gun crime is to confiscate all the fire arms on this country. Guns only for the government.
The sooner they accomplish that, the sooner they can get rid of the 22nd amendment.
Did you mean to write 22nd?
Yes. The 2nd will be gone when all the guns are confiscated, no?
That makes the transition to President for Life Obama so much easier.
I know, I’m getting really cynical in my old age.
Not at all. I thought that’s what you were going for. Just wanted to clarify.
maybe it’s time to look beyond guns and see why all these people have the same profiles (“brilliant” but “social misfits”) and what has happened in the past 20-30 years to make them do what they do?
guns have always been around…something else has changed…I know the NEA ain’t gonna want to go there since it will likely expose the fact that our kids have been lab rats in an experiment gone wrong.
sorry drawoh…I keep meaning to change my log in to kjeet…
How would I know who it is? I get easily confused by these things.
Who or where are the $200 bank cards coming from?
Obama money? (Ah, no, wait! Bloomberg money.)
probably a bank
Brooklyn…turn in 1 for $200, buy 2 from the back of an old Buick…then turn in the 2, get 4. Maybe with time it will work but the offer has to stay open a little longer. Rest assured they will always retain 1 at the end though.
Lol…although I shouldn’t given the subject…figure you would know me regardless of how I spelled it.
several years ago I lived near Newtown…always bought my beer there (along with my tractor parts)…so when the story broke yesterday I was shocked. I keep waiting for more details but as said above, there is something beyond guns causing all this and I fear this will not be the final chapter.
teejk…I wonder if, among other changes, the 24-7 social media/computer/news cycle, has only made it appear that crime and mass shootings are everywhere, all the time. My undersanding is that violent crime is actually down, significantly, over the past 10-20 years. Incarceration rates? So we have conflicting stats., e.g. longer lives, less crime, yet folks are as unhappy as ever.
I digress from your points. Yes, the NEA stinks and crazy kids exist. I don’t believe that there is a viable solution to crazies with guns, other than a well armed citizenry. As for the NEA and unions…on the ropes. They won’t go down easy, but down they will go. Basic economics works, given time.
So, Howard…When are the synagogues going to start offering cash to members for guns? Oh, right…Jews don’t have guns to give back, despite a history demonstrating that, of all groups, they need guns the most.
Steven
Steven, I hate to be the Jew to point this out to you, but you seem to forget: we Chosen People are pretty tight-fisted. You want a synagogue to give you money in exchange for anything? Yeah, you got a case.
well Steven…you digressed on several points there…I’ll simply repeat that I think it’s time to figure out why the profiles are so similar…SOMETHING has happened…
social media perhaps but Columbine was before most of that.
Turning over the parental duties to the teachers (combined with not being able to smack your kids without going to jail…I can attest to the fact that the smack worked for me, at least a little bit)…maybe…
We are at the point where we have to figure out what else is going on, realizing guns are here and will be for years. Nobody seems to want to progress beyond the gun talk and getting at the root cause.
If I had the answer, I would be celebrating my nobel prize and would not be typing this.
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“teejk
December 15, 2012 @ 5:11 PM
maybe it’s time to look beyond guns and see why all these people have the same profiles (“brilliant” but “social misfits”) ”
Dude, I have had that profile my entire life.
yeah Cozmo…me too! there are obviously levels that permit people to engage in social conversation instead of walking into a grade school locked and loaded.
Howard…Regarding Jews and guns; Dang, what was I thinking?
Steven
PS to fuster. I’d like to fix you up with my mother, pictured to my right. Bank in Indiana, she was considered a serious MILF. If the 2 of you had children, they would look just like Obama. ‘Specially the mule ears part.
always have admired her lovely red hair, but am quite quite satisfied with the kid I’ve got….. not to take anything away from your mom, but i hear that folks in Indiana are not too exacting about what constitutes a MuleILF
Steven— they synagogues’ll take the guns, but you don’t get cash, they put a plaque on a West bank olive tree in your honor and proclaim the tree to be yours.
ok then!!! will be watching the outcome of that post…keep us posted Howard (funny in that you have the ability to look under the hood…guess few people realize that).
Wait, teejk, I’m missing something. Which post am I tracking the outcome of that my ability to “look under the hood” is likely to impact?
The comment about the olive trees was a good one. I sigh, but Ho ho ho.
Now that I think about it, you do remind me of mom. Must be some common ancestry involved.
Steven
got a question for you and Mom, Steven.
are you cheese eaters and what do you think about …. pule?
http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/novak-djokovic-buys-worlds-supply-donkey-cheese-131716797–abc-news-topstories.html
probably just that both of us love you unconditionally.
I’ve got rather small ears and not much fondness for alfalfa.
fuster…You fail the basic reading comprehension test. Pule is made from donkey milk, and mom is a mule. Ever hear the expression, “worthless as teats on a mule?”
Even so, the federal regulation on small farmers would negate any such effort by me.
There may be a viable market for frog legs, however. Let’s talk. You can crawl to the bank with the profits.
Steven
had thought of buying a pub.
http://hamphotos.blogspot.com/2007/06/legless-frog-has-new-sign.html
(and did comprehend the origin of the cheese, Steven. yer mommy mighta raised a donkey …. )
fuster…Ever hear the phrase, “hung like a donkey?”
we don’t have your quaint Midwestern customs, Steven.
we just shoot ‘em round here.