The only power that they lack is the power to extend the debt ceiling. That is what their principle target is. They want the GOP to surrender Congress’s power of the purse. Hidden in this past two week’s news was the key agenda point, Timmy “The Tax Cheat” slipped that little side mumble about doing away with the debt ceiling, or allowing the (Only Democrat) President to increase it without Congressional approval.

If this occurs, all bets are off. The Republic is officially dead, and further elections, negotiations, budgets, legislation… all of it is pointless. Why? Because they’ll just leave the current budget in place into perpetuity, and raise the debt limit to cover it. The debt is owed by people yet to be aborted, so who cares? It means nothing to the Democrats.

Conspiracies do exist, and they are often very successful, at least in destroying the status quo.

Ridicule is a powerful tool, and it is deployed ruthlessly by the Left, and cripples the right… Too many people on our side pooh-pooh what they think are the “conspiracies of impure motives”. The Democrat Party has never, since the critical and transitional election of 1824, been a party of more than the populist mob being manipulated by the powerful elites. It has been all about destroying the Constitution, and the Republic since its bastard birthing at Tammany Hall.

It is, I’ll be nice, a Pollyanna like dream, to think that Obambi is more than a puppet. He is where he is because powerful people want him there. “They” get benefit from him, and he enables their draining of the public purse into their pockets for their reasons.

Finally the mob has enough mass to trample even the most determined opposition. The One’s “offer” was no negotiating point. It was a “blow off” that basically said “This is what we want, take it, or take it. We’ll win and you’ll pay, SUCKER…”

The best thing that the GOP can do for itself and whatever survives of this nation in the next 50 years of bankruptcy and dissolution is to walk away. Let the debt ceiling stand, let the sequestration cuts occur, the Democrat taxes go back into place, and the economy tank, because nothing they can do will stop that event.

As to the blame. The DNC/MSM – Ministry of Truth, will spin what it spins. The lies, are churned out, and the trolls will spout them with slavish devotion. To complete an over used analogy; the hooptie drove off the cliff in January 2007.
The Democrats took both houses of Congress; everything since then has been useless arm flapping, and pointless wishful thinking. We have been in free fall and all the arm flapping in the world isn’t going to prevent the crash.

All brought to you by a concerted conspiracy by a powerful group of very wealthy people to maintain their hold on power and money.

The Hellenistic Greeks, The Roman Republic, the Roman Empire, The Chinese Ming Dynasty, any number of conglomerations of European nations/Empires… They all collapsed of corruption, conspiracy, and fiscal rape of the population.

Our children and grandchildren will live in a different world, that’s for sure.

-John – The Mighty Fahvaag

Dear Leader is not negotiating at all, much less negotiating in good faith. Not that he ever negotiated in good faith before.

If Boehner and the GOP have concluded he probably wants to go over the cliff, then putting their best offer on the table before that makes sense, though they could have waited a bit longer. Then start planning ahead, knowing in advance what the enemy will do. No real need to consider what counter offers there might be and how to respond.

And yes, Dear Leader has clearly established he is a mortal enemy who is trying to destroy the GOP. His irrational demand for a fiscally meaningless putative tax on the “wealthy” that can only hurt the economy while do nothing to reduce the deficit only makes sense as a socialist class warfare warrior attempt to destroy the political opposition.

Ah, conspiracy theory and overactive imagination…indeed. Time will tell. If it turns out that rather than overactive imagination, it is a case of denial upon your part, will you have the intellectual honesty to acknowledge it or will you conveniently ‘forget’ having made that charge and dismissal?

Here’s the difference between our points of view; I pray that you are correct and I in error.

But consider, you had best pray that you are in fact correct and, I in error or you (and America) will find yourself up the proverbial “creek without a paddle”.

The very ‘problems’ you cite are exactly the problems that led me and many others to predict that Romney would win. Obama now has a record and people have been tired or the bad economy for years..yet he still won. What is different now? Other than your presupposition that people are finally tired enough and will ‘finally’ see that Obama’s prescriptions are the reason for continued failure?

I have reached the reluctant conclusion that American culture has effectively reached its tipping point, that 47+% and some massive but judiciously applied voter fraud in key swing states has resulted in America ‘voting’ for the soft tyranny of dependency. I also suspect that when the coming fiscal collapse occurs, they will inadvertently turn to the demagogue’s promises with its resultant hard tyranny of oppression.

2012 was a referendum and the vote, falsely or not was to, knowingly or not, end modern civilization and the American experiment in representative democracy.

The inaccuracy of that characterization is irrelevant, the ‘charge’ will, IMO ‘stick’ and I base that assessment upon the fact that the 2012 election demonstrates that to be a fact.